AR15/CARBINE CLASS Feb 13th/14th

[e.money83]

so, would you have someone designated to load everyone's magazines, and they randomly add in a dummy or two or even an empty case(i assume this would likely induce a malfunction) in the mags?

[Danman]

so, would you have someone designated to load everyone's magazines, and they randomly add in a dummy or two or even an empty case(i assume this would likely induce a malfunction) in the mags?

That's basically what we did - took three or five mags and randomly loaded dummy rounds in each and then switched with someone else. Bob then gave the command to fire randomly and you had to react.

[Jafar]

That's basically what we did - took three or five mags and randomly loaded dummy rounds in each and then switched with someone else. Bob then gave the command to fire randomly and you had to react.

This is something that you can't do too much of. And to revert back to the original complaint, firefights are made up of complex dynamic situations in the manner of which Clausewitz said "makes the easiest of things so difficult."

Until a shooter can exhaust his fastest times in clearing malfunctions and reloading his weapon, all other drills are relative to the probability for them to present themselves. Malfunctions and reloads have a 100% rate of occurring. I'm sure Bob would agree with this, but the reason that his Advanced class is named so is because it is the advanced applications of basic fundamentals.

[Airgator0470]

[QUOTE=Jafar;186838]This is something that you can't do too much of. And to revert back to the original complaint, firefights are made up of complex dynamic situations in the manner of which Clausewitz said "makes the easiest of things so difficult."

Until a shooter can exhaust his fastest times in clearing malfunctions and reloading his weapon, all other drills are useless. I'm sure Bob would agree with this, but the reason that his Advanced class is named so is because it is the advanced applications of basic fundamentals.[/QUOTE

Agree. Mechanics and manipulation skills (mag loads and malfunction clearing) are at the top of my list of things that should be worked on... constantly. I appreciate the feedback but will keep the tasks in place as implemented.

Yes, I have folks load magazines with various round counts, generally five live rounds with a dud stuck somewhere in the mix... some get creative and put two in a mag, and then swap mags... so no, even though you KNOW it's coming, it still fucks guys up. Until that FUCK UP is eliminated, the drill and exercise is valid.

[Jafar]

[QUOTE=Airgator0470;186849]

This is something that you can't do too much of. And to revert back to the original complaint, firefights are made up of complex dynamic situations in the manner of which Clausewitz said "makes the easiest of things so difficult."

Until a shooter can exhaust his fastest times in clearing malfunctions and reloading his weapon, all other drills are useless. I'm sure Bob would agree with this, but the reason that his Advanced class is named so is because it is the advanced applications of basic fundamentals.[/QUOTE

Agree. Mechanics and manipulation skills (mag loads and malfunction clearing) are at the top of my list of things that should be worked on... constantly. I appreciate the feedback but will keep the tasks in place as implemented.

Yes, I have folks load magazines with various round counts, generally five live rounds with a dud stuck somewhere in the mix... some get creative and put two in a mag, and then swap mags... so no, even though you KNOW it's coming, it still fucks guys up. Until that FUCK UP is eliminated, the drill and exercise is valid.

I even re-worded that response to attenuate the actual point I was trying to make.