http://www.xtremebullets.com/10-40-1...80hp-b0500.htm
Cheaper. I shoot 38 and 9mm stuff, its good. Supposed to be a thicker pleating than rainier and berrys..
Sometimes you can find powder online at basspro. Buy $100 worth or something and the shipping is free (including hazmat). Prices can be highish, but not Kevins high.