NJC you have 1K .40S&W brass headed your way... all in 50 round boxes.
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NJC you have 1K .40S&W brass headed your way... all in 50 round boxes.
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Going to order these projos tonight unless the wisdom here says otherwise.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/105...ProductFinding
Was going to order some frog snot ones like AB shoots but I can get these for the same price. Lots of good reviews online.
I bought 1k of winchester small pistol primers today. Hope to make a trip to DSH tomorrow to track down a lb of powder. Brass is on the way. Once I sell this refrigerator the press will be on its way, or maybe sooner we will see.
"Rule #1: Be a f-ing Warrior, every f-ing day, in every f-ing thing you do. Be a f-ing Warrior!
Rule #2: Support your men.
Rule #3: TEAMWORK! Team dynamics are absolutely important. Know your men and support them in every way."
http://www.xtremebullets.com/10-40-1...80hp-b0500.htm
Cheaper. I shoot 38 and 9mm stuff, its good. Supposed to be a thicker pleating than rainier and berrys..
Sometimes you can find powder online at basspro. Buy $100 worth or something and the shipping is free (including hazmat). Prices can be highish, but not Kevins high.
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http://www.precisionbullets.com/store/ 40 Caliber - 170 RNF (.401). If you want to try a handful of these, PM me. Jim
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Thanks Dale, I remember you saying about the powder from basspro. I figure that for this first batch I will try to find a pound of powder at DSH or KEvins and be free of the hazmat. Also the gunshow is weekend after next and they usually have a bunch of reloading stuff.
Rumbler gave me a long list of powders he uses for my appication so I think I should be bale to find something. Should this be a success and I continue to reload, I will definitely buyin larger quantities.
JMW, thanks for that offer and link.
"Rule #1: Be a f-ing Warrior, every f-ing day, in every f-ing thing you do. Be a f-ing Warrior!
Rule #2: Support your men.
Rule #3: TEAMWORK! Team dynamics are absolutely important. Know your men and support them in every way."
Hand loading can be as expensive or as inexpensive, as fast or as slow, as exact or as loosey-goosey, as run-of-the-mill or cutting edge, as up-to-the-minute or as retro, as you want it to be. Sometimes I like to just sit and load brass shotgun shells with a hand primer, a stick I whittled to barely fit inside of the shells, wads I cut from cardboard using a chamfered pistol cartridge in the right caliber, a hammer.... and some melted beeswax. I suppose if I really, really, wanted to go completely low tech I could figure out how to de-prime without a press and how to prime without a store-bought priming tool. But that would be just too much of an affectation, because bottom line, there really isn't any truly low tech with cartridge firearms. I always advise buying cheap equipment to start and working up after you are sure you really want to hand load stuff, but buying good manuals appropriate to the kind of loading one plans to do... AND READING THEM! The Lee and Lyman manuals are the most generally applicable because they aren't solely written to hawk proprietary components... but whatever manuals a new hand loader looks at they should read the general conceptual part a few times before going to a specific caliber and starting to assemble ammunition. The devil isn't entirely in the details. It's just as much in having a clear understanding of general concepts many of which change somewhat from pistol, to rifle, to shotgun... and moreso, much, much, moreso for "black" as opposed to smokeless powder. Take smokeless powder concepts to loading black powder, and you can seriously blow something up (possibly yourself) in short order... and to some extent, vice versa. I specialize in loading almost everything under the sun, some of which involves cardboard templates to cut paper cartridges or paper-patched (wrapped) bullets, but as of yet I still haven't gotten around to buying any Dillon presses.
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I agree with you winter soldier,I had one of the blue beasts 20yrs ago,do not plan on owning another one.I let some other guy own the blue bastard.Hated it.
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That's a total 180 degrees from my experience! I absolutely love mine.Originally Posted by Johnny
1To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.In many ways the difference between the highest blue Dillon down through the green and orange and any other colors to the lowest Lee red, is all about time, and PURPOSE.
The complex and expensive models are good for making lots and lots of rounds identical in most or all respects, very fast... I would call that "bulk" hand loading.
The models in between have niches for lesser production with more changes between one session and the next, changes in caliber or changes in bullet weight or powder amount, crimp, or other details... They are less speedy and generally more adept at producing greater variety at a slower pace. When you get down to the simplest presses you may have either the slowest and cheapest way to make lots of identical rounds, or one of the easiest ways of making just a few rounds of something or another of all kinds... OR a way to make ammo that just CANNOT be made on the speedy, more complicated presses. Try loading a .577/.45 Martini Henry, a 12.7x44R (roughly .51 caliber) Swedish Rolling Block, or even a more common .45-70 Government cartridge on yer fancy-schmancey rocket reloader. Another specialty item is .50 BMG, because of its extreme OAL (OVERALL LENGTH)! More likely than not your typical progressive press of ANY price will absolutely REFUSE to even accept the dies for such calibers, because they are far larger than the 5/8" so-called "standard" die size. There is in fact, more than one "standard". It works the other way, too. What good is a progressive press for reloading .25 ACP? (Don't bother asking "what kind of idiot?"... that sort of question just won't get you anywhere you want to go, at all.) The "one size loads all" hand primers don't even work with either the extremely small or extremely large cases... and I prefer to prime that way because I can FEEL the primer being properly seated. Ever see a primer smashed to oblivion sideways across a primer pocket? If you haven't, you haven't been looking... that USELESS load was most likely run through a progressive press... and I've even seen that situation in "factory" ammo. I load a plethora of calibers, usually not so many rounds of the same kind at the same time... and they can vary from .25 to .577 in case head diameter. If you do have a progressive, and you ever want to load some of the less-usual large calibers, you will probably have to drop down to a simple D press. An even less expensive C press is handier for tiny or middle sized calibers though a non-progressive turrent press will also handle most of those calibers faster. Lee has an extremely inexpensive hand press that needs no bench to mount a press on. It also puts a lot of stress on the user's hand so I wouldn't recommend it for any but very low production purposes... but it is a good option to take to a range with components and other necessary light equipment and adjust charges in real time, loading a few test loads at a time, at some shady place off of the firing line. I have a Lee C press that is mounted to one of those Frankford Arsenal portable plastic reloading stands that I have taken to the range for that sort of purpose. It's bulkier, but plenty light and portable, extremely inexpensive, and doesn't strain the hand.
Hand loading presses are NOT either/or, are NOT "one size fits all", and NO press no matter how expensive fullfills every possible purpose. If you do all kinds of things with them you will need all kinds of presses and other gadgets too. If you never do anything but the boring and predictable task of putting the same charge and the same bullet in the same COMMON caliber of cartridge, for only a few calibers... that's Dillon Territory. I live mostly in RCBS Territory with some Lee add-ons, but I've recently found that sometimes the "cheap" Lee stuff works better and faster on turret jobs than with a RCBS turret... not to mention that the Lee turret heads have a better number of available die mounting holes, are lighter and more easily storable with the dies attached, and cost cents on the dollar to what RCBS turret heads cost.
It is only possible to get "ideological" about brands or even types of presses for hand loading, if the ideologue has a VERY NARROW mental frame of reference.
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