Likes Likes:  37
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Results 1 to 10 of 37

Thread: 9mm

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumbler View Post
    Accurate Arms #5
    Hodgdon Clays
    Hodgdon HS-6
    Hodgdon HP-38
    Hodgdon International Clays
    Hodgdon Universal
    Hodgdon Titegroup
    Hodgdon Trail Boss
    IMR 700-x
    IMR SR7625

    What is it they say; diversity is the spice of life?

    These are the powders I either am using currently or have used in the past to load 115gr 9mm.


    My point being . . . don't get all bummed out if you go to Kevins or DSH and they don't have exactly the powder you went in there for.

    Heck, I'm working up a load using the ends off of kitchen matches.
    Rumbler any idea why in most of the loads I can find all the plated and lead loads call for powders like accurate #.... V-3N37, R silhouette, ect but the jacketed loads have all the Autocomo, blue/green/red dots, titegroup, universal, 7625. Ect. Is it the burn temperatures or something, I just run what I brung and Im down to my limited supply of sr4756 but Ive been able to kind of wing it and have loads that worked great with everything from 115 9mm, 135 and 180 .40s, to 230 ball for .45

  2. #2
    Administrator Rumbler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Right Here
    Posts
    8,178
    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. mike View Post
    Rumbler any idea why in most of the loads I can find all the plated and lead loads call for powders like accurate #.... V-3N37, R silhouette, ect but the jacketed loads have all the Autocomo, blue/green/red dots, titegroup, universal, 7625. Ect. Is it the burn temperatures or something, I just run what I brung and Im down to my limited supply of sr4756 but Ive been able to kind of wing it and have loads that worked great with everything from 115 9mm, 135 and 180 .40s, to 230 ball for .45

    I wish I had a way of testing my theory, I would love to.

    But I believe that it is a combination of burn rate and pressure.

    Remember that smokeless powder does not "explode" when ignited, it changes from a solid to a gas. So there are actually two factors to be considered in that process; the speed at which the conversion occurs, and the volume of gas created.

    A "fast" powder may very well convert to gas very quickly, but not create the volume of gas necessary to propel a bullet at very high velocity. The net effect being; lots of heat and a slow(er) moving bullet - obviously.

    . . . but just when one says "dang! That makes sense!" Rumbler says; hey there are fast powders out there that make a LOT of gas, and there are "slow" powders that make a little gas and some that make a lot of gas.

    Bottom line is that a jacketed or coated bullet tolerates heat and pressure better than a "raw" lead bullet because of that coating - be it copper, brass, or some synthetic hi-tech chemical.

    Thus lead bullets tend to like powders that have a slower solid to gas conversion rate so the bullet can get farther down the barrel - away from the heat caused by conversion. But is it also worth considering a very fast powder that produces a lower volume of gas - and I am sure you are seeing why: once the conversion process has occurred the heat generated has peaked - it is not going to continue to rise. Even raw lead can take surprisingly high extremely short duration heat.

    Selecting - wisely and safely - the best power to use for a given barrel length and bullet weight is where the art in reloading is to be found. It is my seldom humble opinion that only time and experimentation creates reloading artist.


    . . oh, and some "luck" can be handy to have too.
    I'd rather be lucky than good, but I'd rather KNOW I'm good than HOPE to get lucky.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •