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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumbler View Post
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    Might consider it, it may lead to untold fame.
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    We need a nomination for nose picker award>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Gribble View Post
    Ok, I've never shot over 100 yards without a magnified optic. The next 3 gun advertises 400 yards.

    So I need to increase the velocity of my learning.

    My thoughts on what to do..

    1. I have a 50/200 yard zero on my Aimpoint. I don't want to change my zero (but I will need to verify it at 200 and re-adjust). So I will need to calculate a hold over for xm193 at 400 yards and learn what that looks like.

    Question. What kind of target is optimal for a red dot sight at 200/300 and 400 yards. The targets I usually use with a quarter sized red spot will be useless I would assume because I won't see them.


    2. Practice. I need help. I guess I need to practice shooting and getting into the prone quickly. Any drills/suggestions welcomed.


    Oh, I just thought of something. I have a Matech BUIS on this rifle. Perhaps I should just set that SOB to 400m and skip the RDS on the long stuff?

    I have shot man sized steel painted white at 350yards with an Eotech and it was hard as hell. 200yards is easy for me to hit with BC zone sized steel but past that I really need magnification to be effective. If you can't get magnification then do the best you can. Who knows you might do pretty good.

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    I have been thinking about this as well. My conclusion: hopefully Razz picks a large steel target.
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    I hope so too. But hope doesn't lead to shit.

    So far it looks like prone using the magazine as a monopod is the best method for shooting this.

    For zeroing the scope at 200 or more yards, I am wondering what the best target to use is. I'm thinking a black circle about 1 or 2 MOA bigger than what the dot will appear as would work. But I really have no idea.

    Anyone?
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    Dale, I've recently switched to the 36/300 yard zero. You might want to look at it.
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but a tireless minority keen to setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Father of Our Revolution, Samuel Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tack Driver View Post
    Dale, I've recently switched to the 36/300 yard zero. You might want to look at it.
    I've thought about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tack Driver View Post
    Dale, I've recently switched to the 36/300 yard zero. You might want to look at it.

    Tack 'ol buddy if you are talking about "combat zero" that is 25 meters and 300 meters. I use it for my poodle shooter and with M855 it is right on the dot.

    I know that you are smart enough to figure this out on your own but I jumped on one of the free online conversion calculators:

    25m = 27yd 1.0210ft

    -or-

    82.021 feet.
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