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Thread: AR500 Steel. Some lessons learned.

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    A friend of mine who was a welder (still is) always said to use filler rod made of the same material you are welding whenever possible. Is that reasonable?
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    What happens when you temper mild steel with salty water? Does it "become" AR500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR549 View Post
    What happens when you temper mild steel with salty water? Does it "become" AR500?
    No. Different metals react differently do differ quench baths. Some metals become hard to the state of brittleness upon quenching and additional steps. You can soften hard steel by annealing it, you can't harden soft steel to hard steel standards. At least that what's I have been told and seen. Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMW4570 View Post
    you can't harden soft steel to hard steel standards.
    The internet is a big place. I bet there's some steel porn out there that could get this done.
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    Internet rules 34 and 35.

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    Rule 34 clearly states that if it exists there is porn of it, no exceptions.

    Rule 35 states that if porn of it cannot be found, it is sure to be created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tack Driver View Post
    The internet is a big place. I bet there's some steel porn out there that could get this done.
    Well then you could save a butt load of money by not buying AR500 plates and buying mild steel!
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    Not all steel can be hardened to all specifications. They are usually very specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BR549 View Post
    What happens when you temper mild steel with salty water? Does it "become" AR500?


    Think of steel as a composite. It is made up of several different elements. As I am sure you know, each element has its own characteristics.

    And just because this is sounding easy I will point out that some of those characteristics change based on the other elements in the "composite" AND the amount of the elements in the mix (the "ratio" of each to the other).

    The mix of elements that are used to create "AR500" are substantially different than the mix used for mild steel. So, short answer: No.


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    My dad is a metal sculptor and has mastered about every form of welding I can think of. I used to play around with his MIG and TIG machines for fun and I can usually lay down a pretty good weld but I don't know much about steel composition. Pretty interesting.

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