AR500 Steel. Some lessons learned.

[Bitter American]

Very interesting Mike. I wonder what effect it would have on gold?

Looks like Rumbler has become the range alchemist.

[BlueBronco]

Rumbler, when you say penetrator rounds, are you talking about the 62 grain rounds like M855?

Because I very frequently have to repair it after an assortment of morons shoot the hell out of it with steel core or "penetrator" ammo.

[YankeeFingergasm]

Rumbler, when you say penetrator rounds, are you talking about the 62 grain rounds like M855?

He's talking about ANYTHING THAT STICKS TO A MAGNET.

[Rumbler]

Bingo.


There is a frangible bullet made of powdered metal pressed (100 tons) into a bullet shape. But that stuff is $1.00 per shot bought in bulk so I'm thinking the likelihood of non governmental agency personnel using it to plink at steel is pretty slim . . . .

[AB]

You've got skills, Rumbler.

[JMW4570]

The Force is strong with this one...

[BlueBronco]

He's talking about ANYTHING THAT STICKS TO A MAGNET.

I got that from the "steel core" part. When I see "penetrator" used, I think of M855 because of the different design to the 7.62x39 and 5.45x39. I know it will go through steel helmets, but wasn't sure how it would actually do against AR500 at 100 to 200 yards.

Here it is at 15 yards.

[Rumbler]

BB, imagine that 200-1000 times per day.

AND bear in mind that because of bullet flight angle at 100, 200 or whatever, the actual penetrative potential is increased.

[BlueBronco]

BB, imagine that 200-1000 times per day.

AND bear in mind that because of bullet flight angle at 100, 200 or whatever, the actual penetrative potential is increased.

Rumbler, I understand about the repeated hits the targets take. I was more interested in the protection factor of these me materials used in personal protection. If someone gets hit in the chest plate 200 to 1000 times, they are having a very bad day.

Regarding the targets, I am surprised that that many people are sneaking in M855 and other steel containing ammo.

[Rumbler]

Regarding the targets, I am surprised that that many people are sneaking in M855 and other steel containing ammo.

Doesn't take many people. Just a few with a lot of ammo.

With that said, ask any of "the regulars" the 100 & 200 yard ranges get a TON of use. They are almost always busy.