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    Well, now, wait........I'm not so sure on the "much" greater time thing. The recoil impulse is very quick. The deceleration of the projectile in the body or the projectile going through and exiting the body is similarly very quick. By a percentage, I wouldn't argue with you. As a matter of human perception, it's very similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tack Driver View Post
    Well, now, wait........I'm not so sure on the "much" greater time thing. The recoil impulse is very quick. The deceleration of the projectile in the body or the projectile going through and exiting the body is similarly very quick. By a percentage, I wouldn't argue with you. As a matter of human perception, it's very similar.
    Its very hard for me to make any generalizations about hitting something soft, like a body. But at one point you talked about something more solid. Like a steel plate, or bowling pin top. I would say the rate of deceleration hitting something hard and heavy like a steel plate would be quite high, and very quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Gribble View Post
    Its very hard for me to make any generalizations about hitting something soft, like a body. But at one point you talked about something more solid. Like a steel plate, or bowling pin top. I would say the rate of deceleration hitting something hard and heavy like a steel plate would be quite high, and very quick.
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    Yeah, but still only the difference of acceleration in the barrel (this started over a handgun round.........3-4") vs. instant deceleration. I'd be willing to bet (not quite by getting shot kinda stakes) that it would be imperceptible by the human brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tack Driver View Post
    I'm tracking now.

    Yeah, but still only the difference of acceleration in the barrel (this started over a handgun round.........3-4") vs. instant deceleration. I'd be willing to bet (not quite by getting shot kiinda stakes) that it would be imperceptible by the human brain.
    (BTW, what is kiinda?)

    If the handgun was a single shot, or revolver, perhaps. However if its semi auto, then you have the bolt or slide or whatever spreading that impulse out over even more time. Plus with hand gun, what you the shoot feels is cushioned by your wrists or elbows or other parts of your body moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Gribble View Post
    (BTW, what is kiinda?)

    If the handgun was a single shot, or revolver, perhaps. However if its semi auto, then you have the bolt or slide or whatever spreading that impulse out over even more time. Plus with hand gun, what you the shoot feels is cushioned by your wrists or elbows or other parts of your body moving.
    Good point, but still the same about of gross energy, which is what prompted Jafar's ire.

    And you can kiinda fuck off.
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