Thank You Event - Discussion

[crawdaddy34]

OK....

In that case, I would propose that open carry is not such a hot idea. I'm thinking that if this thing is a success, there will be lot's of FAMILYS there. That mean's mom's and kids.

Just think about that for a sec.....

You get just ONE, that takes issue with a bunch of guys she doesn't know open carrying around her kids and that could get ugly. At the very least, it's going to make some people uncomfortable, which is the exact opposite of what we are trying to accomplish....

I think there are other ways to get the point across of who we are without openly displaying firearms.

Add that to the enormous amount of fairly recent NEGATIVE publicity surrounding folks open carrying, (anyone remember Starbucks?) and I personally think that may not be the best way to get the point across...

That, and open carry REALLY limits our options for a venue....

But I'll help any way I can organize what ever ya'll want. I can't promise that I'll be there at this time, but I'll put in the work to help make it a success if you need it.

[crawdaddy34]

I would also like to throw out there that if PS is involved, he be asked to keep it off his morning show. At least not talk about it untill AFTER the event.

It would be a great way to get the word out, BUT.... I can see that spirling out of control PDQ. The last thing you want, if the idea is to simply thank the local first responders, is a bunch of local news vans lined up trying to get interviews....

[0utlaw]

I have to disagree, the way to get people comfortable around guns is to take the mystic aura away from them. If people start to see them on your belt like a cell phone it becomes common place, the fact that we are required to hide our weapons implies there is something wrong with carrying that must be hidden from proper folk.

[crawdaddy34]

I have to disagree, the way to get people comfortable around guns is to take the mystic aura away from them. If people start to see them on your belt like a cell phone it becomes common place, the fact that we are required to hide our weapons implies there is something wrong with carrying that must be hidden from proper folk.

I know, and I struggled with that very thing while I was writing that. There is no easy answer, I'm just offering another perspective.

I guess it comes down to how much of a 2A statement do you want to make vs. how comfortable do you want to make the "guests of honor". The truth is not EVERY person that will/would attend is going to be cool with seeing a bunch of folks they don't know with guns. However, if we were to subtly show them that yes, we are gun owners and supporters of the constitution, and we are ALSO normal people. Not the right wing radicals that we are often portrayed to be, I think that will be better received by the masses.

Maybe I misunderstood the point of the event, but I thought it was to thank this group of people, not convert them. And the hard reality is this, with all the media attention surrounding guns right now, it WILL APPEAR to be politically motivated if we all strap up.

[polebarn]

There are generations of people uncomfortable with guns and being around them won't change their minds. Brainwashed by the schools,the government, and the news media they are lost to reeducation. Such thinking assumes common sense and we have lost common ground as a people. Divisiveness,sensory overload and a feel of a total lack of control or purpose except for short term self satisfaction has replaced the values of hard work,self reliance, and a hope for the future that used to unite us. But I digress....

[0utlaw]

If this is going to be a touchy feely let's make sure nobody is in no way anxious or uncomfortable event I'll just bow out here per Mike's request as I would have no interest in participating in that type of event.

[crawdaddy34]

If this is going to be a touchy feely let's make sure nobody is in no way anxious or uncomfortable event I'll just bow out here per Mike's request as I would have no interest in participating in that type of event.

Pump ya brakes Buggs....

I'm just offering up an alternate perspective and trying to think the whole thing thru. I'm still admittedly confused and slightly unsure of how this will/should proceed. That's the purpose of the discussion.

Don't take your ball home just yet...

[OscarMike1127]

I like the idea. The event is one I would like to attend. However, I also feel that open carry is a bad idea. The concept is a whole lot like the segregation of blacks, women's rights, or gay marriage... The public is just not ready for the change yet. It must be made in small doses. The political climate of the sheep pack is simply not ready to witness several of their flock suddenly showing their wolf teeth. How about a "conceal carry" event? -even though I am sure most in attendance will be packing anyway.

Also, along with Preston Scott, that fellow from Freedom 93.3 (An AirForce Veteran) may be good to include. Forget his name... He is on in the afternoons

[0utlaw]

I like the idea. The event is one I would like to attend. However, I also feel that open carry is a bad idea. The concept is a whole lot like the segregation of blacks, women's rights, or gay marriage... The public is just not ready for the change yet. It must be made in small doses. The political climate of the sheep pack is simply not ready to witness several of their flock suddenly showing their wolf teeth. How about a "conceal carry" event? -even though I am sure most in attendance will be packing anyway.

Also, along with Preston Scott, that fellow from Freedom 93.3 (An AirForce Veteran) may be good to include. Forget his name... He is on in the afternoons

I think it's time we start sittin' our asses in the front of the bus then.

[Dale Gribble]

I'm not sure I understand the concern about open carry. The intent isn't (as I understand it) to invite the great unwashed masses, but first responders. Now fireman and EMS folks may not be comfortable around guns, but I would expect most law enforcement folks to be comfortable, and if not, the point was (again, as I understood it) to start to establish that comfort for them.

If they arrived and left because they decided they didn't like citizens carrying guns, they probably aren't going to change their mind regardless of what we do.

The idea was to thank them, and at the same time subtly do a soft presentation of responsible citizens who are also gun owners.