ACTICVE SHOOTER TRAINING COMPLETED

[Rumbler]

What? You mean not providing enough information to the public to form an informed opinion regarding the incidents?


I agree 100% what we are told is very obviously filtered to the point of force feeding us a narrative we are expected to swallow blindly. It is pathetic.


I also wish it was criminal.

[Rumbler]

Exactly.

[Dale Gribble]

Airgator, Rumber and Yankee miss the point.

If a civilian encounter had the same outcome as most of these police incidents, we would be arrested, and if we couldn't make bail we would be staying in jail.

However when this happens with cops they are put a paid administrative leave.

We are not treated the same.

[Rumbler]

BBI know you don't like it but the fact of the mater is that approximately 70% of the people who physically fit Roy Middelton's description have either done prison time, will do prison time, or currently are doing prison time.

That is according to the statistics of the DOJ, FBI, and BOP (bureau of prisons).

That means a reasonable person would be highly 'on alert' when encountering such a person in what a reasonable person could conceive is the commission of a felony. Further, a reasonable person, upon realizing the Roy Middleton was not responding to lawful orders, might even conclude that IN FACT they were encountering a felon committing another felony crime.

Ever heard of "three strikes"? If a reasonable person was charged with apprehending criminals they could very reasonably wonder . . . . will this be strike two or three?

I'd have been ready to shoot the SOB full of holes if he didn't get completely compliant completely quickly.

Your opinion is based on HIND SIGHT. Now I can't help your thinking that condemning the people who would die if necessary to protect your ass are slime balls because they do not have the gift of pre-hind sight is appropriate. But I can sure get upset about you being part of the problem that causes shit like that to happen in the first place. Isn't your job teaching little "Roy Middeltons"?

[BlueBronco]

BBI know you don't like it but the fact of the mater is that approximately 70% of the people who physically fit Roy Middelton's description have either done prison time, will do prison time, or currently are doing prison time.

That is according to the statistics of the DOJ, FBI, and BOP (bureau of prisons).

That means a reasonable person would be highly 'on alert' when encountering such a person in what a reasonable person could conceive is the commission of a felony. Further, a reasonable person, upon realizing the Roy Middleton was not responding to lawful orders, might even conclude that IN FACT they were encountering a felon committing another felony crime.

Ever heard of "three strikes"? If a reasonable person was charged with apprehending criminals they could very reasonably wonder . . . . will this be strike two or three?

I'd have been ready to shoot the SOB full of holes if he didn't get completely compliant completely quickly.

Your opinion is based on HIND SIGHT. Now I can't help your thinking that condemning the people who would die if necessary to protect your ass are slime balls because they do not have the gift of pre-hind sight is appropriate. But I can sure get upset about you being part of the problem that causes shit like that to happen in the first place. Isn't your job teaching little "Roy Middeltons"?

You dodged the second part of the example in Escambia county where the white couple was dragged out of bed into the hall and their dogs shot in the bedroom. For the record I don't teach "little Roy Middletons." I am mostly a researcher for the A & M part and prat of my unit is made up of USDA. The courses I teach are graduate level courses. Furthermore, I have sent several graduate students and seniors for ccw licenses etc and I wouldn't do that for people I wouldn't turn my back on. I have news for you Mike, there are white people in all walks of life I wont turn my back on. Frankly I don't give a damn if you get upset about my job. It has nothing to do with the fact that I am pro-LEO. I also believe that if the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments can be violated for any race, religion or political party, it will be done for everyone.

[Rumbler]

BB how many arrests are made every day? How many dopers and gangbangers taken down every day?

Do you not think that some sense of scale is in order?

You know, like when one can say with certainty that approximately 70% of one demographic group is known to a specific behavior pattern expecting that pattern in general on some level is just plain common sense.

Think about this. There is this room you have to go into every day. It is full of people. These people are black, white, yellow, red, brown, pink, and some in between. But they only wear red, blue, or white shirts. First trip into the room two people in blue shirts step on your foot. It hurts but you write it off as being crowded.

The next time you go in the room one different person in a blue shirts step on your foot. You write it off because it is a redhead with big boobs. But it still hurts.

Next day, more people in blue shirts stomp on your aching foot.

How many days do you need to have your foot stomped before you get very 'antsy' around anyone wearing a blue shirt? Doesn't matter if they are black, white, yellow, red, brown, pink, young, or old.

By the way. If you are pro-LEO, I am Mary Poppins.

[BlueBronco]

. . .

By the way. If you are pro-LEO, I am Mary Poppins.

How do you like flying the umbrella around? Anything I have posted has been about a situation and not about being anti-LEO. I am anti-criminal. I sure as hell don't train criminals like you implied in the last couple of sentences of your last post.

[Rumbler]

How do you like flying the umbrella around? Anything I have posted has been about a situation and not about being anti-LEO. I am anti-criminal. I sure as hell don't train criminals like you implied in the last couple of sentences of your last post.

I can not think of one single incident when the topic was performance of a LEO where you did not voice a negative opinion or perspective of law enforcement officers if you responded at all.

Not a one.

of course, I am willing to admit my mistake(s) so feel free to prove me wrong.

Unless you do not speak to your students about current events ever - at all - your negative and usually severely biased perceptions are conveyed to them.


This is the end of this pissing match from my perspective. You and I have known each other for a fairly long time and I would like to keep our relations fairly amiable. But I have a very low tolerance for having smoke blown up my ass. You know that. So the mere fact that I am bowing up at you should be a pretty clear signal that my threshold has been met.

[BlueBronco]

I can not think of one single incident when the topic was performance of a LEO where you did not voice a negative opinion or perspective of law enforcement officers if you responded at all.

Not a one.

of course, I am willing to admit my mistake(s) so feel free to prove me wrong.

Unless you do not speak to your students about current events ever - at all - your negative and usually severely biased perceptions are conveyed to them.


This is the end of this pissing match from my perspective. You and I have known each other for a fairly long time and I would like to keep our relations fairly amiable. But I have a very low tolerance for having smoke blown up my ass. You know that. So the mere fact that I am bowing up at you should be a pretty clear signal that my threshold has been met.

http://forum.capitalcitygunforum.com...T-LEO-25-times


http://forum.capitalcitygunforum.com...in-Clean-Shoot


http://forum.capitalcitygunforum.com...uties-wounds-2


http://forum.capitalcitygunforum.com...police-officer


http://forum.capitalcitygunforum.com...good-cop-alert


http://forum.capitalcitygunforum.com...-SHERIFF-FINCH

[Frady]

You know, like when one can say with certainty that approximately 70% of one demographic group is known to a specific behavior pattern expecting that pattern in general on some level is just plain common sense.

Could you show where you're getting this statistic, and define what it is? A quick cursory search and simple common sense indicate it is a wildly exaggerated made up statistic. That being said, maybe I'm misunderstanding you.