ACTICVE SHOOTER TRAINING COMPLETED

[Rumbler]

Right off the top of my head I can think of several businesses Zimmerman could theoretically start/use to maintain anonymity and generate revenue for his family.

I have the feeling that we (collectively) are not privy to the big picture from his perspective.

You and I have different life perspectives; you have a wife and baby to consider. I have a dog that bites . . . and farts, and then looks at me like I did it. Anyway, I certainly do not fault you for your perspective. . . or at least I don't think I do . . .

[crawdaddy34]

Right off the top of my head I can think of several businesses Zimmerman could theoretically start/use to maintain anonymity and generate revenue for his family.

I have the feeling that we (collectively) are not privy to the big picture from his perspective.

You and I have different life perspectives; you have a wife and baby to consider. I have a dog that bites . . . and farts, and then looks at me like I did it. Anyway, I certainly do not fault you for your perspective. . . or at least I don't think I do . . .

Everyone always blames the dog....

[Evil_McNasty]

Jafar, thank you for your service. Especially if overseas. My dad is very much the same. He is a Vietnam vet and is very pragmatic with the value of ordinary citizens. He has seen and done enough that he is no longer a glossy eyed patriot. He would kill every living thing that got in the way of his family's safety but would not become John Wayne for your average baggy pants, bone head, mall dweller. He has a different perspective on the value of human lives. And it is totally understandable. When you pack your friends' body parts into bags to be shipped home, it kinda changes your value system.

I was driving tonight and was thinking a little more about the situation we have all been discussing. In my previous post I was being very matter-of-fact in my response to a thought provoking question. I already said I would go back inside. But upon further thought, I kinda simplified it to a more "on the scene" response. I came up with this: if I was outside the building and could hear women and children inside screaming between gunshots???? There is no way I could stay outside. I would go in with a garden rake if it's all I had. Think about it in those terms. I think in that scenario, even my dad would be indistingishible from a wolf.

[Rumbler]

Wolves and sheepdogs have a lot in common. They both have fangs, and a capacity for violence.

The real difference comes in their values - their perspectives - if you will.

[Evil_McNasty]

Wolves and sheepdogs have a lot in common. They both have fangs, and a capacity for violence.

The real difference comes in their values - their perspectives - if you will.

Exactly. What I am saying is that in the case of hearing kids screaming, even my cynical dad would come out of his shell and sheepdog to such a degree that he would look extremely wolf-like. It would amaze me if any person on this forum could stand around outside and hear that. But my values and expectations of armed males may be different than others. I do know that if my role turned out to be such that I only helped get people out of the building, then I would always wonder if I could have done more.

[YankeeFingergasm]

I think you know the scenario you presented and replacing yourself as the deputies isn't the same as what Bob was talking about and nothing to do with an active shooter situation.

[0utlaw]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/21...cmp=latestnews

If it were an isolated incident would be one thing but it is certainly a trend

[Dale Gribble]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/21...cmp=latestnews

If it were an isolated incident would be one thing but it is certainly a trend

Perhaps we should be afraid of cops. I'm sure if we yelled stop and killed one because of a furtive movement we would walk free. In Bizarro world.

[0utlaw]

I don't feel like civilians are getting a raw deal, I think that LEO's are getting passes in SOME situations that don't appear to warrent it.

[YankeeFingergasm]

I don't feel like civilians are getting a raw deal, I think that LEO's are getting passes in SOME situations that don't appear to warrent it.

That's a fair statement.