Yea, and I was for it before I was against it. I didn't inhale.Originally Posted by crawdaddy34
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Yea, and I was for it before I was against it. I didn't inhale.
When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always.
ahhhhh yeah right.
Oderint dum metuant
"Stay with me; do not fear. For he who seeks your life seeks my life, but with me you shall be safe.” 1 Samuel 22:23
“This gun is liberty; hold for certain that the day when you no more have it, you will be returned to slavery.” – Toussaint L’Ouverture
" the assertion that skin color should be a factor is use of force "
Funny, I thought I was making a case for being on extra high alert. Having reason to strongly suspect. Oh well. Wouldn't be the first time I learned I had no idea what I meant from an on-line fourm. Heck remember that was how I learned I was guilty of treason on TGF!
Oh, and David, even the Huffington Post says it is in excess of 50%.
The NAACP says 1 million out of 2.3 million
USA Today says by age 23 OVER HALF of all black males have been arrested.
That is three notoriously liberal "minded" sources. Two out of three places the number OVER HALF.
That was one quick search on Google. Like I have said; step #1 is wanting to see.
I gotta go now. I need to find a mary poppins avatar . . .
I'd rather be lucky than good, but I'd rather KNOW I'm good than HOPE to get lucky.
It IS what I do
Oderint dum metuant
"Stay with me; do not fear. For he who seeks your life seeks my life, but with me you shall be safe.” 1 Samuel 22:23
“This gun is liberty; hold for certain that the day when you no more have it, you will be returned to slavery.” – Toussaint L’Ouverture
So you chose to ignore the links to the sources you previously "cited" showing your numbers were made up/wildly exaggerated and now have three new vague sources to support your position?That was one quick search on Google. Like I have said; step #1 is wanting to see.
This is a great strategy to never have to change your mind about anything eh?
If you stir long enough sometimes it turns to gravy.....note the big guy's new avatarIt IS what I do
Oderint dum metuant
"Stay with me; do not fear. For he who seeks your life seeks my life, but with me you shall be safe.” 1 Samuel 22:23
“This gun is liberty; hold for certain that the day when you no more have it, you will be returned to slavery.” – Toussaint L’Ouverture
So you chose to ignore the links to the sources you previously "cited" showing your numbers were made up/wildly exaggerated and now have three new vague sources to support your position?
This is a great strategy to never have to change your mind about anything eh?
No David, I am not going to dig out the information again. I know what it says.
I quoted three bleeding heart liberal sources that say AT WORST the number I quoted is SLIGHTLY high.
You believe what you want to believe. I believe that when my ass is on the line I am paying extra special attention to what *I KNOW* poses the greatest potential for my untimely demise. If that makes me a racist, if that makes me a bigot, if that makes me a shit eating ass hole, I really couldn't care less. I WILL win the fight by being the most aggressive with the least hesitation.
If that philosophy don't work for you, I am OK with that. It makes me feel bad because I like you and your wife a lot, but I respect your right to make your own decision(s).
I'd rather be lucky than good, but I'd rather KNOW I'm good than HOPE to get lucky.
I generally use the FBI UCR and FDLE statistics for various crime data as well as murders by weapon type because they go back for quite a ways. The problem with places like Huff Po is they get data from irregular sources and they tend to push Social Justice and they want said numbers to look out of alignment. At the end of the day, those are descriptive statistics and not inferential or predictive.
Deputy Pine was murdered by an Asian Decent looking guy although is g.f. (Pugh) is black. Deputy German was murdered by an 18 y.o. white kid looking punk accompanied by a 17 y.o. white girl. It is unclear if the 17 yo girl was an accomplice or just murdered. Pugh was part of the robbing and stealing and hope the charge her with murder 1 with special circumstances.
"If our lives are endangered by plots or violence or armed robbers or enemies then every method of protecting ourselves is morally right" -- Cicero
"Governor, I haven't let another man touch my gun since 1861."
I'm sure you know this, but murder is the ONLY crime remotely close to being accurately reported on the UCR, and FDLE statistics are simply the Florida UCR stats aren't they? I want nothing to do with the debate, I simply don't want anybody to think that any of the statistics cited here (and I mean everyone) are to be taken seriously.
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