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So you chose to ignore the links to the sources you previously "cited" showing your numbers were made up/wildly exaggerated and now have three new vague sources to support your position?That was one quick search on Google. Like I have said; step #1 is wanting to see.
This is a great strategy to never have to change your mind about anything eh?
Originally Posted by Frady
So you chose to ignore the links to the sources you previously "cited" showing your numbers were made up/wildly exaggerated and now have three new vague sources to support your position?
This is a great strategy to never have to change your mind about anything eh?
No David, I am not going to dig out the information again. I know what it says.
I quoted three bleeding heart liberal sources that say AT WORST the number I quoted is SLIGHTLY high.
You believe what you want to believe. I believe that when my ass is on the line I am paying extra special attention to what *I KNOW* poses the greatest potential for my untimely demise. If that makes me a racist, if that makes me a bigot, if that makes me a shit eating ass hole, I really couldn't care less. I WILL win the fight by being the most aggressive with the least hesitation.
If that philosophy don't work for you, I am OK with that. It makes me feel bad because I like you and your wife a lot, but I respect your right to make your own decision(s).
I'd rather be lucky than good, but I'd rather KNOW I'm good than HOPE to get lucky.
I generally use the FBI UCR and FDLE statistics for various crime data as well as murders by weapon type because they go back for quite a ways. The problem with places like Huff Po is they get data from irregular sources and they tend to push Social Justice and they want said numbers to look out of alignment. At the end of the day, those are descriptive statistics and not inferential or predictive.
Deputy Pine was murdered by an Asian Decent looking guy although is g.f. (Pugh) is black. Deputy German was murdered by an 18 y.o. white kid looking punk accompanied by a 17 y.o. white girl. It is unclear if the 17 yo girl was an accomplice or just murdered. Pugh was part of the robbing and stealing and hope the charge her with murder 1 with special circumstances.
"If our lives are endangered by plots or violence or armed robbers or enemies then every method of protecting ourselves is morally right" -- Cicero
"Governor, I haven't let another man touch my gun since 1861."
I'm sure you know this, but murder is the ONLY crime remotely close to being accurately reported on the UCR, and FDLE statistics are simply the Florida UCR stats aren't they? I want nothing to do with the debate, I simply don't want anybody to think that any of the statistics cited here (and I mean everyone) are to be taken seriously.
Florida doesn't submit data to the FBI UCR which is why I included a separate link. That said, if the FBI UCR data aren't accurate, do you thing the Puffington Compost et al. are going to be better? The WANT high numbers to push their social justice agenda. That said, do you have a better set of data than the FBI UCR? I know they are far from perfect, but don't know another set that is compiled annually for as long as those to organizations. I can tell you right now that the Gun Ban Lobby doesn't like them because it allows to break out the murder data by handguns, long guns, knives, fists/feet etc. and it breaks up their average of 30,000 gun deaths a year into perspective given roughly half of those are suicide. Plus, it gives a number for justifiable police shootings and citizen shootings (except for Florida which is tabulated by FDLE).
Last edited by BlueBronco; March 26th, 2014 at 02:57 PM.
"If our lives are endangered by plots or violence or armed robbers or enemies then every method of protecting ourselves is morally right" -- Cicero
"Governor, I haven't let another man touch my gun since 1861."
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