Hey dribble you selling commie crap now??????Next thing will be Vietnam Crap.
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Hey dribble you selling commie crap now??????Next thing will be Vietnam Crap.
Its actually Chinese, Vietnam war era, does that count?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny
Yeah it counts.Will look elsewere from now on.
Got about 15 rounds ready for testing.
7.4 gr of Hodgdons longshot
Winchester Small pistol primers
165 gr plated JHPs
COAL 1.125
Hope to test tomorrow night.
Funny, that was your 1911th post.
Look at that....
getting close to the big 2k !
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Originally Posted by AB
I got that. But I don't think that NJC did. :hahaha::goodjob:
I remember my first ones. The first 2 I fired with my eyes closed. Not worried, just cautious. Did not have this pool of knowledge to draw from.
Why.. whats the significance of 1911 ?? It was like 100 yrs ago ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumbler
YUP..Quote:
Originally Posted by SB
Was going to go last night on my way home from work, but then I said.. naahh all I have is my duty gun.. I dont want to have to tell my boss I blew it up, even though it is mine. I will test with a GLock 23 and an HK USP in.40 just to make sure they feed and chamber in both.
I'm pretty comfortable with the recipie though, it is on the low end, but I could not get my powder disk to 7.5 or 7.6.. I have an adjustable disk on the way.. COAL has been measured on all of them... 1.125, 1.123 that sort of area, but none larger than 1.125, none smaller than 1.122. IT seems the more ass you put on the press when seating the bullet, the different the result. I am going to play with the seating die to account for this i think.
I will report back tomorrow with the results.
If your die is set up properly it will not make any difference how much ass you put behind pulled the handle down.Check your case length.Trim until they are all the same length.
trim pistol cases..who does that ??
For 9 & 45's, I use a Lee press with the disk powder measure as well. The first couple loads I did were at the low end of the tables, and while they shot just fine and were within the proper fps of the manual, I would get a few FTF's. So the disk's next charge-setting up was perfect. The lack of an ability for finer adjustment is the one thing I don't like about the disks. But once you do find the right spot, it's so easy. And really, 45ACP is about the easiest cartridge to load (that I have seen in my few years of reloading).Quote:
Originally Posted by NJC
I have a some 77gr 5.56 you can try if you are still chasing that down. I worked up a magic load for my precision AR.
I trim down 9x19mm to 9x18mm on occasion, but by and large I don't even measure pistol brass. Ain't gonna hurt anything to measure/trim. Just extra work. If I was going to trim it would probably be with .357 Sig., but I've never loaded any .357 Sig. Hmmm. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea with other bottleneck pistol calibers but I haven't loaded any of those enough times to worry about it, yet. Revolver brass needing crimping can benefit from trimming for consistency. The whole subject probably boils down to what you think you're doing...Quote:
Originally Posted by NJC
Never have normal caliber pistol brass. JimQuote:
Originally Posted by NJC
Range trip went well
Recoil was stout but manageable. About as hot as I would want for practice in a Glock 23
All rounds chambered and cycled reliably and accuracy was great.
Of the brass I recovered, the case mouth of all were deformed. Is this something I need to look into more ?
How is it deformed?
stand by for text pic..
Usually, that is an indication it is hitting the inside of the ejection port on the way out. Depending on the gun that can be a result of a lot of things! Once we put them over a chrono we can tell if there is too much or too little velocity running.
OK...well if I load up say 20 or 25 can we look at it at the next C4 ? Would you mind bringing your chrono.. I will also bring the brass for you to look at.
A couple of them have some healthy extraction and ejector marks on the rims.. 2 of the seven I recovered to be exact.
I'm thinking fatigued recoil spring. They don't last forever, and knowing that you are not exceeding published load data I think that is a well grounded suspicion.
FWIW.:)
Thank you very much...
Am going to chrono some next wednesday and I will shoot through my Glock 22 and my HK USP .40
Rumbler, the only thing I replace on my glocks is sights , a broken slide stop lever on a gen 1 glock 19 and a couple of trigger or locking block pins on a stipple grip glock 17..
I think I did some mag springs during "The ban"
Refuse to replace anything else.
I do like that load though and the projos were very accurate for me..
I might go up to 7.5 grains.
Next time I am buying powder though, I will look for something that loads in the 4 to 5 grain range so I can get more rounds per pound.
Bullseye maybe ???
Evil..
Thanks..
PM inbound
I haven't loaded any Bullseye in 25 years.
The Alliant site:
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...aspx?gtypeid=1
shows it as a very versatile powder, and I know it is popular as heck, but my recollection of it, is that it is very 'smokey' and sooty.
Maybe that has changed, I honestly don't know. :chinscratch:
If I can get over that way I will bring you some bullseye. It is one of my favorites for 9 and 45.
Bullseye is still dirty as hell.The only thing as dirty is 700x not 800x.
Still a favorite of mine in 38,9,45, and the old hercules bullseye is still good, 3.8 gr under a 200 gr lrn in 45 gives me 715 fps with a sd of 5.
So I'm using it.
The alliant is a little slower by about .2 gr from what I noticed when I had it, and compared the lots of powder to each other. (By equal weight)
Your results may vary depending on the lot of powder you have.
The volumetric displacement was diffrent between the lots I compared as well.
Yes you do have to clean them after you shoot them, but I do that anyway.
I clean mine after every shoot also but do not like the residue that comes with bullseye.
Finally got to chrono my load:
165 gr plated JHP
winchester primers
7.4 gr of hogdons long shot
1057 fps from a glock 22 across ABs chronograph was fastest. Average was 1030.
I'll take it. Now to start pulling the lever to make the ammo !!
Go for it!
Oddly fulfilling. Isn't it. :)
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Originally Posted by NJC
Yup,
Cranked out about 200 rounds yesterday :-)
More to come !
Progressive presses will eat components at an alarming rate. Stock up at every opportunity!
Totally not being snarky. How long did it take to
make 200 rounds in your setup?
by the time I loaded primers, powder, brass etc and allowing for the fact im new and messed up a couple times, about an hour.
I can definitely go faster, but right now I'm more concerned with getting the process down and right.
I think I could prob get around 400 an hour, but I think that would be about it. Manually setting each bullet is a pita but the Lee bullet feeder looks hokey.
It is never about speed.
Safety first.
I absolutely agree!
The speed will come with familiarity. Putting in the time and attention to learn the feel of each individual function (station) is time best spent. You will learn by feel that the machine will almost always tell you when something is wrong, or going wrong, before it becomes a potentially dangerous situation.
primer feeding seems to be the weak point for the lee press. I have implemented some tricks from the web and it is much better. The press primes on the up stroke of the lever and unless this is a positive motion for the full range the primer will not seat properly.So i pay a lot of attention to primers and feeding. This seems to be working.
Loaded a little more today, maybe aniother hundred. Hampered somewhat by finnicky primer feeding.
NJC, I think that you will be surprised by how much nasty crap primers come with. I would suggest cleaning all the primer feeding system you can, very thoroughly.
Njc..
get the the hand primer. It is easy, you can sit and watch (any shit on tv, your kids, the neighbors fight) and prime 500 rounds.
Also the site loadmastervideos.com has folks who use the different lee stuff and have fixed about every issue.
Dale,
I'll take a look at that site, thanks.
YOu know I thought about hand priming but here is the deal. Stage 1 is depriming and sizing, stage 2 is prime and powder, stage 3 is projectile seating, cripm etc..
To hand prime I would basically be depriming all my brass, taking it off the press, hand priming then when ready to reload I would have effectively turned my progressive into a single stage.
I'll keep working on it thouhg, thanks for the suggestions.
ammo performed flawlessly today. I will make some more tomorrow ;-)
plagued by primer feed and indexing issues today..
I can hear the Dillon owners chuckling.
Dale I spent a while on that web site. They are geared towards a different press unfortunately, but thanks.
Did you look in the pro 1000 sub forum?
it was not there.... well I did not see it.
Look again copper.