Well, the "Big boys" use something called automatic weapons. That shit has at least 3 round bursts. Plus, even with standard shit, there is the old fashionded fucking double tap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Gribble
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Well, the "Big boys" use something called automatic weapons. That shit has at least 3 round bursts. Plus, even with standard shit, there is the old fashionded fucking double tap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Gribble
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Originally Posted by BlueBronco
Uh huh. And how often with a double tap do you make 1 hole?
Dammit, just ordered a set. Not right.
At cqc, it happens more often than you think. Ceramic plates may be fine and good for LEO going up against a punk with a Jennings .25 ACP. However, a shtf scenario against real weapons, I don't think I will have the luxury of changing shit out. I thought this was for a 2nd AR500 buy and not ceramic pottery.
I totally agree, which is why I'm getting rid of my ceramics. I prefer the risk of getting shot in the face than breaking a plate by being hit, or shit, you should see how many I've seen broken just by dropping a carrier while taking it off or putting it on. I need something that will last the long haul, and I'll take the possible spalling as my trade off.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBronco
I have AR500 with the line-x build up for just that reason. If the SHTF and I won't be getting more plates I want my protection to be able to last FOREVER. I figure I also won't have time to recoat my plates and the build up does a better job of stopping fragments from subsequent shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBronco
However if I had money to stock many plates of ceramic I would feel quite safe wearing them, and I would be able to move faster if they were the lightweight ceramic. I don't have that option however.
Dale, can you arrange a group buy one some of these?
http://static4.businessinsider.com/i...858/swat-7.jpg
Then a again, some of these masks made out of AR500 would be cool!
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Paintball guns.Quote:
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Originally Posted by BlueBronco
Ive got a point blank vest thats rated for 9mm sub gun and lesser threats but I think I can put plates in it, wouldn't the kevlar stop the spalding if it hit a steel plate and how much weight does that add.
How much weight does the line-x add? I can find out I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt. mike
The kevlar should stop the fragments, however the one concern I have is the ones that travel 90 degrees to the plate, does the kevlar wrap over the edge. If so I would think you are golden.
I would think so they have a curve to them so it should catch all the stray pieces even at 90degs, my only concern is your trading speed and mobility for armor that aint gonna help if you catch one in the face. Also that vest I have kinda sandwiches together with velcro and buttons in the front so how would you get a plate in there?
The curve is in the horizontal only. Imagine the fragments traveling vertically. If you have any kind of a gut, like I do, the plates get a bit of an angle right towards your adams apple area. Lots of really important stuff that is not protected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt. mike
Adds a thickness of .5” and adds ¾”lb or 1" and 1.5 lb for front and back plates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Gribble
http://www.ar500armor.com/line-x-pro...e-coating.html
Thanks. I was on my phone and didn't want to look it up from the small screen.. Then forgot about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBronco