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I also purchase a lot from Natchez Shooters Supply on line.
So I tried DSH, Kevin's, academy, Guns n Gold & Adtec. There are no small pistol primers or 9mm projectiles to be found. I've been looking online and haven't found any either. So if anyone runs across some, please let me know. Or if anyone has some they want to part with, give me a shout. Thanks for all the help guys.
Dillion's monthly pamphlet always has some decent prices on components. Sadly I've thrown mine away, but I'll receive another in the next week or two.
See if anyone on here has July's or try their website.
Yeah primers are out everywhere.....
How many times have I told you guys to buy them when they have them...
might as well, they don't really go bad if kept dryQuote:
Originally Posted by WinterSoldier
I only remember this one time.....Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSoldier
The way shit works... primers, though necessary for everything, are also a competition against manufacturers other products upon which they make more money...so... when sales are good, why worry about selling a few nickle-dime primers. But if you think that's bad... just try to find percussion caps, I double-dog dare you. I don't know if they've run out yet, but if they have don't hold your breath for them to make more. You won't just turn blue, you will wither, die, and turn to dust before you see another percussion cap... No 10, No 11, or musket.
You don’t even have to keep them dry. I rescued a batch from a garage that had been leaking and the moisture was so bad the boxes fell apart around the plastic sleeves and you could see “high water” marks. Dried them out and used them. ~1500 primers (Winchester small pistol) and none failed to fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by BWest
Cabellas has CCI #11,#11 magnum, and 4 wing but only in 100 count.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSoldier
Pick WS up a box of each. You know "for the elderly".Quote:
Originally Posted by polebarn
Midway has CCI 500s in stock. A bit pricy after shipping, so throw in other items to mix up the cost. Speer 115 gr bullets are available for .12 a piece. At least it gets you started so you can learn now and not months down the road. When stuff comes back in stock later then you can buy in bulk when cheaper. Then you’ll know what to buy or not buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy27012
Thanks Clay's! I actually just got that email and jumped on it. So I got some on the way!
"The elderly" only accept "free stuff".Quote:
Originally Posted by Cattle/Horses
My shipment from Midway arrived late today. So I've been spending some time in the shop and this is what I've come up with. 124 gr. Speer over 5.1 grains of Winchester autocomp seated to 1.135" I'm going to give them a shot next time I get a chance to go to the range. Let's hope this works out. Attachment 16689
Primers seated a bit below flush? Any crimp? Looks good!
Put all the bullets in a loading block or normal factory ammo box. Put them in bullet down and look real close at the primers and the heights of the cases. Flip them over and do the same thing looking at the bullets. Anything not right will usually pop right out at you.
I also load everything one step at a time (when I reloaded last.)
Prime, put all cases primer up, check.
Put all cases primer down, put in powder. Any double or over charge shows up in pistol rifle is deeper so harder to see. I use powder that a double charge will overfill the case to make it evident.
Then add bullets. any not seated will also show up in a bullet block.
Weigh a good known loaded case. Then compare the rest to it.
When you test your first load have your cousin do it. And have him shoot support hand only. That way if something goes wrong, you’re still around to fix the load and tell us your mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy27012
I'm just looking at a photo, so what do I know? NOTHING!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Clays
But, I will say that I question the "crimp" or just plain old "neck tension". If the bullets are in there too loose and the bullet moves while being bumped around in the gun before firing, bad things can result.
Once again though, I'm just looking at a photo. I KNOW nothing.
WS ^^^ I got you a couple of pieces of flint for your Hawkins. You should be GTG now.
I will admit the photo does look like the "crimp" is a little lacking, but I assure you it's there.
Just curious, how much do you guys crimp your bullets?
The primers are slightly below flush.. i think they are ok.
Keep in mind that the 9mm headspaces on the case mouth.If you put to much crimp you have some real problems.
I don't have anything as newfangled as a Hawkins.
Well, there is the .75 cal. Tower Musket, made at the Tower of London in 1842.
I chamfer the case mouth on all of my brass which gives it more of a transition...
I put less emphasis on oal, as that varies by bullet style, and weight. I put more of an emphasis on it passing the plunk test, where it drops in the pistol chamber. As Johnny said 9 mm and 45 indexes on the case mouth. A taper crimp on auto loaders, roll crimp on revolvers that index off case rim, and neck tension for rifle is what I use.
I go through quite a few bullets getting it just right. I crimp it down until it will drop into a chamber gauge smoothly. I then pull the bullet to make sure the bullet isn’t pinched at all. I’m looking for a smooth scratch pattern all the way around the bullet with no tapering in the jacketing/plating and no “waist” where the case mouth was. Next, I push the bullet against the bench to make sure it won’t set back in the case under a moderate amount of pressure. I’m not too worried about the bullet walking out of the case under recoil in a semi-auto. That’s mostly a revolver problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy27012
Speaking of, what bullet puller do you guys recommend?
Hornady. I’ve tried to break it, and it won’t. There’s probably slightly better but more expensive options out there like the new Frankford wall mounted puller. Just load in small batches to test, then you won’t need to pull hundreds at a time if it’s a bad load. You can pull hundreds with the Hornady though - I did it one afternoon lol.
Channellock
Seriously; Remove the die from ur single stage press. Place cartridge in case holder and raise it up through hole where the die screws in. Grasp bullet and reverse direction of press lever. let the handle and tip of chanellocks rest on side of press. I've pulled a few like this through the years.
I have press-mounted bullet pullers in several of the "more popular calibers" but have never used any of them. I started off using a green RCBS inertial puller but soon found that hard use ate up the light aluminum collets very fast. I then moved over to some more or less nameless orange colored clone inertial puller that has multiple collets instead of just one -universal" (one size fits none) collet... but frankly I haven't had much reason to pull bullets lately. A puller is a handy thing you should have, but I wouldn't spend big bucks on one...