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    You didn't mention the generation of the G26.

    In the gen 4 G17s (and 19s) we use in the basic classes using 115 grain bullets I have found no published powder load that would function the gun reliably. In order to get them to run reliably I have to throw the published load data out the window.

    As it turned out, in the case of plated bullets, the 'balance point' where the pistol would just cycle reliably and the bullets breaking up on the way to the target was just so thin as to not be something either the instructors or myself were comfortable with.

    I could get back to "safe" with 124 grain bullets, but with 147 grain bullets there was an actual safety margin that allowed for (safe) mass production and made the pistols run like tactical tupperware sewing machines.


    So . . . take that for what it is worth. If I have loaded 100 rounds of 9mm I have loaded a couple of hundred thousand.

    Oh! This problem does not exist with the gen3 or earlier guns. They eat the 115 grain bullets like candy loaded to (slightly) less than max loads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMW4570 View Post
    DSH runs reloading classes as another option.
    I bought my MEC 9000 from them. I took the basic shotgun reloading class. They set up my machine for the 30,000+ shells I have reloaded this year, and have been great people to deal with.
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    Curtis I noticed the same thing, my theory is when using powders like 4756 that are on the slow side the plated bullets just don't allow the powder to build enough pressure to get the burn right. I have gone over max loads just to get them where they were healthy but right where they start to working good they go full retard with just a hair more powder. I like plated bullets because they are cheap but ive had better luck with heavy bullets like 230 ball or 180gr in 45acp and .40. 115 plateds are great but its just hard to get them dialed in being that light. I just bought a lb of longshot and I'm gonna try and get something that works to finish off all these plated but then I'm getting either 147 bayou bullets or some real jacketed 115 bullets and load them to 1300 plus

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