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    I'm going to try it on scrap. My concern would be brittelness. If it works it'd be great for wedding bands.
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    My gut tells me the molecular arrangement of gold is FAR different than that of steel, so I wouldn't hazard a guess.

    But I guess I did guess. Because I really don't have any idea about the molecular arrangement of either metal.
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    Thanks, I learned something new.

    Metal properties have always amazed me, but I've never work with any of it enough to learn anything other than the basics. Lot of what I learned was from old timers and I've later learned a lot of it was more folk lore than science.

    Like the knife and tool maker that would only harden and anneal a blade while pointing it true north. IE magnetic north. Thought to make a harder, less brittle blade.

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    Nice. I work with metal for a living (for a while now, too) and I didn't know this. Props to Mike and the rest of you crusty curmudgeons. ...Dagnabbit.

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    Bingo.


    There is a frangible bullet made of powdered metal pressed (100 tons) into a bullet shape. But that stuff is $1.00 per shot bought in bulk so I'm thinking the likelihood of non governmental agency personnel using it to plink at steel is pretty slim . . . .
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    You've got skills, Rumbler.

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    BB, imagine that 200-1000 times per day.

    AND bear in mind that because of bullet flight angle at 100, 200 or whatever, the actual penetrative potential is increased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumbler View Post
    BB, imagine that 200-1000 times per day.

    AND bear in mind that because of bullet flight angle at 100, 200 or whatever, the actual penetrative potential is increased.
    Rumbler, I understand about the repeated hits the targets take. I was more interested in the protection factor of these me materials used in personal protection. If someone gets hit in the chest plate 200 to 1000 times, they are having a very bad day.

    Regarding the targets, I am surprised that that many people are sneaking in M855 and other steel containing ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBronco View Post
    Regarding the targets, I am surprised that that many people are sneaking in M855 and other steel containing ammo.
    Doesn't take many people. Just a few with a lot of ammo.

    With that said, ask any of "the regulars" the 100 & 200 yard ranges get a TON of use. They are almost always busy.
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