Sight Alignment Quiz - Prize Included

[TheJewban]

I don't think you'll get many to admit they shoot static paper targets. It's not cool or whatever is perceived to be negative about it. I do. I think there's a time and place for everything. You always hear how bulls eye training/shooting is boring. I think people should remember that's where, I assume, most people start out at and progress on to "combat" training. My perception is paper punching is where the fundamentals are taught, layering a solid base knowledge if you will. I want to know more and plan on becoming a better paper puncher. Isn't there something to being an incredibly accurate shot? Like I said, I don't know this stuff. I'm new. I hope you'all continue to share your knowledge with me.

Aimed Fire is not just for static paper targets and bullseye shooting, and most certainly used in combat.

In a nutshell. Point Shooting for up close and personal work, i.e., when you don’t have the time or ability to use sights. Beyond that, when you need to...AIMED FIRE.

ETA: Good post Yankee.

[north-fl-trader]

Aimed Fire is not just for static paper targets and bullseye shooting, and most certainly used in combat.

But by its nature, aimed fire cannot be rushed beyond the limitations of the shooter and equipment. Training and practice can reduce the time, but not eliminate it.

I think you are searching for something that is not an absolute.

You are not asking us how do you spell dog, you are asking why the hell we call it a DOG!

[YankeeFingergasm]

Despite me telling you to EFF off a while ago Arc I'll admit that was a quality post.

[TheJewban]

I was not ever going to post here. Don't expect much more.

Sight Alignment, A simple Exercise.
Instructions are for Right handed people, reverse hands for left handed.

Extend left arm out full length to left side, thumb vertical. This represents the Front sight.

Hold right fist half way between shoulder and elbow index and second knuckles up and level. This represents rear sight.

When the top of the thumb appears to be level with the top of the knuckles, and evenly splits the space between the knuckles, then your sight is aligned.

Raise or lower, rotate left and right so that the front sight (thumb) is sitting on the point of intended impact, keeping the front sight relationship to the rear sight (knuckles)

To find the 'fuzzy' vision, align on a point fairly close, focus on that point.
You should be able to see your thumb quite clearly, your knuckles will appear a little fuzzy. Now focus on a point at a long distance, say 100 yards.
Now your thumb is fuzzy and knuckles are more fuzzy (fuzzier?)

Depending on where you and your firearm shoots compared to point of aim (how you zeroed), you either:
Put the top of the front sight so that the target (bullseye) looks to be resting on top of the sight.
Put the top of the front sight at the visible center of the target.

Combat shooting is only effective as far as the person has been training, the firearm(s) that he or she is used to and with what kinds of ammo.
People have limits.
One person with a handgun may be able to hit 6 inch targets out to 100 yards justt because their gun is an extension of their body.
Most people can't hit a 24 inch circle at 15 yards without aiming because they are not familiar with their gun.

Pistols have advantages and disadvantages over a rifle. Up to some point. at full extension, the front and rear sights focus almost equally when focused on a target. But the distance between the front and rear sights is relatively short, making accuracy reduce.

Is that your final answer?

[Ceddie]

OK quick and dirty answer:
I look at my target, both eyes open. then I bring the pistol in to my line of sight and obscure the target with the front site post.

It works for me but it prolly isn't CORRECT.

EDIT to add:
The key to follow up is follow through.
squeeze the trigger on the 1st shot. KEEP THE TRIGGER SQUOZE!
(damn it it is a word)
manage your recoil and bring the pistol back into proper alignment, THEN release to reset and repeat until the threat is no more.

[TheJewban]

When you present the firearm, have the front sight higher than the rear sight., bring the front sight to your line of sight to the target

W I N N E R

CONGRATULATIONS ARCWELDER

Congratulations my man.

Since I've seen no instruction or nomenclature attached to this technique (unless someone shows otherwise) I'm terming it:

Don't hunt the fox; dock in the notch

Like Arc said, "when you present the firearm, have the front sight higher than the rear sight". That way you see both the front and rear sight. Then, lower the muzzle and simply dock the front sight post right into the rear sight notch. Any other way and you wind up hunting (however minor) for that front sight. Think about it, if your front sight is low, left, or right as you present for sight alignment, then your eye is only looking at the rear sight. Then you go through that silly expedition of fishing for the front sight. Try it, practice it, and you'll find that it automatically snaps right in place over time.

Airgator, I will send funds. Please register Arc in any of the Basic or Advanced AR15 class of his choice . Thank you.

One again Arc, congratulations.

[Rumbler]

Congratulations, Arc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, there is a real live actual name for that technique; "high Sabrina".

It was popularized in 1976 by Kate Jackson at the behest of Aaron Spelling.

[Greg Kulbick]

So you're looking for better than minute of man? That takes too much time.

[TheJewban]

Aimed Fire is not just for static paper targets and bullseye shooting, and most certainly used in combat.

In a nutshell. Point Shooting for up close and personal work, i.e., when you don’t have the time or ability to use sights. Beyond that, when you need to...AIMED FIRE.

Really... Please enlighten me to your certainty of this

This thread is about Quick Sight Alignment that I turned into a quiz. Although Point Shooting and Flash Sight Picture kept rearing it’s head, I always tried to stay on topic - to maintain the Quick Sight Alignment theme in this thread.

My goal was to get fellow members involved, make it fun, pass on what I thought was a useful suggestion, and award the winner some free gun training.

I’m sorry if I failed on all or one of those points, but I still want to stay on topic and maintain the Quick Sight Alignment theme here.

Jlfar, I’ve got no problem enlightening you of my certainty that Aimed Fire is unquestionably used in combat, but please let me make the following suggestion.

I think the Tips & Tricks forum is most useful to members/lurkers/unregistered users when each thread has it own theme and the Thread Title bears a relation to it. I did a horrible job with mine, i.e., "Tip/Trick Quiz of the Day - Prize Included". This said nothing to the user seeking a tip on Sight Alignment. I’m trying to get it changed to "Sight Alignment Quiz - Prize Included".

No doubt you asked an interesting question that has epic thread potential but on an entirely different sighting/fighting method/discipline. To keep from getting things muddled by replying to this thread on a different topic, may I suggest you start a new thread, maybe “Point Shooting vs. Aimed Fire” or whatever, and pose the same question to me there.

That way we’re building a Tips & Tricks library of thread titles that clearly define the topic for the user seeking info on that particular subject. It also respects the OP's that start threads by reducing the potential for hijacked threads.

Or, if you think that’s a cockamamie idea I can just respond here. Let me know. Thanks.

BTW, as moderator, can you change my thread title to "Sight Alignment Quiz - Prize Included"?

[TheJewban]

So you're looking for better than minute of man? That takes too much time.

Correct Greg. I stated exactly what you said.You were more brief though.

In a nutshell. Point Shooting for up close and personal work, i.e., when you don’t have the time or ability to use sights. Beyond that, when you need to [have the time and ability]...AIMED FIRE.