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AB
September 22nd, 2015, 09:27 PM
I just ran the math on my current loads, which, if you've remembered earlier posts, is the most expensive version of reloading I do.

With a Montana Gold (big in the gun games, but outside of that not many people have heard of them) 180 grain non-expanding JHP, a Winchester primer, and Titegroup powder, I'm getting very accurate loads at .18 per round. I just checked some of the online crawlers and the cheapest stuff I could find comparable was Freedom at .24 per round before shipping (there were cheaper .40 loads, but they were lighter than 180 grains and none lower than .23). My .18 figure includes hazmat on the powder as well as the primers.

Just thought I'd share in case anyone was wondering if it was still cost-effective to reload.

And, I'd put my FMJ reloads against Freedom's plated remanufactured all day long.

I just realized even reloading I spend an ass-ton of money on ammo in a year.

NJC
September 22nd, 2015, 11:02 PM
Nice thing about freedom is their free shipping on first order. The UPS man is going to hate me.

When I tried reloading , 1000 of 165gr jhp in .40 cost me just over $180, having got brass free and sourced powder and primers locally.

I was saving $40.00 a case. Factor in ROI on press and it takes 10 cases to pay for it at that rate and thats not counting my time.

12bhunting
September 22nd, 2015, 11:14 PM
I don't save much hand loading rifle cartridges because I seem to shoot them just as fast as I can make them. I am loading 270 & 7 mag Sierra gamekings for .70 a round. But I did not have to pay for the brass.... So far being able to make a bullet do what I want it to do is well worth the cost.

12bhunting
September 22nd, 2015, 11:16 PM
Now if I had to factor in all the different powders I went through to get what I wanted, well that's another story...

Airgator0470
September 23rd, 2015, 05:07 PM
AB you give RMR a chance? I just ordered another 3K for 9mm.

Frady
September 23rd, 2015, 05:17 PM
What's the saying? You don't save any money reloading, you just shoot a lot more.

mapper
September 23rd, 2015, 07:18 PM
Some times it seems like a expensive way to save money,
But being able to load rounds that you can't buy that your rifle really likes is a worthwhile skill set.

About .70 each for match 223/308/6 mm

40 gr of 4064 under a 87 vmax=3426 fps.. that one is a keeper.

A dime for lead 38/9 mm
13 cents for lead 45

I like being insulated from ammo demands, and enjoy the craft for its own merits.
Once you get past the, "gee that gizmo would make things easier" stage.

Johnny
September 23rd, 2015, 08:17 PM
after 52yrs of reloading I can not stand buying any factory rounds except my Turkey loads for my 20 ga shotgun,22lr

JMW4570
September 23rd, 2015, 09:03 PM
What? You're not reloading 22's?

FLT
September 23rd, 2015, 09:12 PM
No , but he's got 50000 In reserve .

AB
September 23rd, 2015, 09:17 PM
AB you give RMR a chance? I just ordered another 3K for 9mm.

Not yet. I'm making no changes at all until after the big match, and then I'll be doing some research on different rounds that meet my accuracy needs and cost less. I'm starting to think it's not going to happen though. All I need is 2-3" group at 25 yards. I haven't found a plated bullet that will do that yet. It's just frustrating that a cast bullet will do it just fine, as will a true jacketed round. I'm probably out of the lead bullet game for good, so that leaves jacketed.



...and enjoy the craft for its own merits...

Yeah, that's not going to be my any time soon! I see it as a necessary chore, but a chore nonetheless.

mapper
September 23rd, 2015, 09:42 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MrFhnDQ-eUU
Computer controlled dillon 1050

AB
September 24th, 2015, 07:34 AM
I've seen them online, but never in real life. If I was going to go automated, I would look at the Camdex commercial machines. The Dillon auto conversions have never inspired confidence!

That opinion is subject to change when I see one operating IRL, though.

Airgator0470
September 25th, 2015, 08:06 PM
Just picked up another 3K of the RMR heavy plated 115gr 9mm bullets... I'll be busy tonight.

SB
September 25th, 2015, 09:39 PM
Just picked up another 3K of the RMR heavy plated 115gr 9mm bullets... I'll be busy tonight.

I know the feeling. Just got another 2k 124gr fmj from Precision Delta.

Rumbler
September 25th, 2015, 10:11 PM
You guys sure load light weight bullets!

My "normal" is a 147gr.

These are 'gatorsnot' bullets. And given a good shooter, will do about an inch at 25 yards.

mattb
September 26th, 2015, 07:54 PM
Last time I rubbed one out, it weighed 1200 grains and was going 18,000 feet per second.

12bhunting
September 26th, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jafar rubs out 2000 grainers at 25,000 ft per second.

#fanboy#1

Note to self, do not to borrow Ikes chronograph.....

0utlaw
September 26th, 2015, 09:03 PM
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