Entry Class was a success

[Airgator0470]

We had some clear but hot weather... unfortunately, we did not get any rain. It appears everyone had a good time and learned something useful. All in attendance stayed focused and exhibited great/safe firearms handling skills... could not have asked for a better group to train with.

Thanks to all who took the time to come train...

Bob

[AB]

Looking forward to the AAR!

[Rumbler]

Excellent!

Training with you is always a great experience, Bob. I'm SURE everyone learned something useful. :yourock:

[YankeeFingergasm]

I can only speak for day 1, as I pussed out this morning for day 2, but it was an excellent learning experience. We began Saturday morning at 7am in the field. This was a bit of a change as many of you know most start in the classroom. Bob went over a few administrative items and safety rules. All guns, both primary and secondary, cleared and flagged as being safe. There was no ammo on any person during the day. It remained in everyone's vehicles. We would be working in dynamic situations in which flagging someone may occur. No one seemed to have any issues with this. We given a thorough overview of what to expect, some terms, ideas, theories etc and hit the course.

Throughout the day we went over many situations. We covered both single person and team drills. We went over things like active shooter, limited penetration, full penetration, combo, fall flood, verbal and nonverbal communications, link ups etc. It was really a great day and a look of learning.

A plus as always Bob. Thank you sir for passing on your knowledge to us.

[Tack Driver]

I can only speak for day 1, as I pussed out this morning for day 2

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[YankeeFingergasm]

I'm not proud of it but I man up to my mistakes.

[Airgator0470]

I'm not proud of it but I man up to my mistakes.

I think you're being a little too hard on yourself.... in all fairness, it was hot and we stayed on our feet a lot. A good part of training and learning comes from the realization that some tasks require more from us physically than initially expected. Extended tactical operations will, not can, become extremely demanding both physically and mentally.

Your continued commitment to push yourself and learn is to be commended... and for the record, it's WALL FLOOD, not FALL FLOOD... LOL. Thanks for coming out, it's always good to see you.

[AUfish11]

Great class Bob. If no one does a day 2 AAR today I'll throw one out there tonight.

[Tack Driver]

I think you're being a little too hard on yourself.... in all fairness, it was hot and we stayed on our feet a lot.

Proverbs 27:17 tells me to not let him off that easy.

I agree though, showing me my limitations is my biggest draw to professional training. You just don't know what you don't know, until you're shown you don't know it.

[Airgator0470]

Please limit posts to the class or AAR.

[Tack Driver]

Please limit posts to the class or AAR.

I'll move the off-topic posts so you can get back to your marketing AG. Sorry we interrupted.

http://forum.capitalcitygunforum.com/showthread.php?5698-Off-Topic-Spinoff-Convo-Religion#top

[0utlaw]

Please limit posts to the class or AAR.
Sorry Bob :mope:





But.....ARTICLE VI............Just saying

[Mikec2003]

Day 2 Bob had us running a refresher on the material of day 1, clearing the structure as a 4 man stack until we cleared it all with no mistakes. It sucks getting into the last room, and accidentally flagging someone...OUT!! we got tired of Bob saying OUT!!

Then we moved on to Saturation style entry and clearing, which is a highly efficient way to clear a lot of rooms really quickly if you have the manpower (12 to 15 people)

Then it was on to some exposure to a ballistic shield, which is an eye opener on how much it sucks to haul that thing around.

Next we moved on to shooting exercises, mostly designed to get comfortable shooting and moving in and around people, be they operators or civilians.

Then on to discretionary shooting, shoot/no shoot stuff. I managed to only kill one cop, but in my defense he had an evil twin with a gun, you can't trust a man with an evil twin.

I'm sure I missed some stuff, but that's the general rundown of day 2. All in all, an excellent class, learned a lot, perhaps some of it doesn't apply to me and my plans, but its still good stuff to know, and gives a lot of insight into police entry procedures and things of that nature.

[Frady]

First, I haven't been able to shoot but a few (literally like two, maybe three times) times in the last 8 months or so and I definitely felt rusty. 14 month old, jobs, still disserting and teaching a full load at FSU, just bought a house, new baby in the next few weeks.... I got shit going on. I have been waiting for Bob to put this class on for a while and it took some pretty serious negotiations to get the COO to agree to a whole weekend off with the house in need of work and a baby due at any time, but I really wanted this class. To say I was excited and expecting a lot would be an understatement.

I wasn't disappointed.


Day 1:

No ammo, no shooting, just building the foundation and practicing dry:

Bob gave us a quick briefing and set the stage. He spent a short amount of time setting up the day's agenda and explaining the basic terminology and concepts. Then we moved to his rooms for some basics.

First he explained a lot of the why and when the tactics we were using were appropriate. different situations require different actions. This wasn't a slicing the pie, take all the time in the world kind of class. This was a shit is going down and you need to move your ass, but in a systematic and intelligent way.

He explained his approach to room clearing and why/when it's appropriate in the context of the surroundings/room setup. This is pretty simple until you have to do it at speed with Bob yelling at you. We did it alone, in teams of two, teams of four, single rooms, multiple rooms and with various challenges (obstacles, meeting unknown armed others, etc.) to navigate.

We discussed the practical psychological affects of the various entry methods and the body language/verbal that is appropriate in different situations (aggressive, submissive, cautious, etc.). for example: How do you handle another person armed that may/may not be the attacker? How do you communicate with unknown others in searching for a mass shooter? When you don't really know what's going on, how can you most efficiently move through a building (home, office, mall, etc.). When and who covers what when you're clearing? When presented with two bad choices, how do you decide?

There was nothing overly complex about anything during the day, it's just making this stuff automatic through repetition.


Day Two:

Early part of the day is a lot of review. We go through everything a few times then Bob makes us put it all together as individuals and as teams. However, he stops us each and every time we fuck up and we didn't stop till we got it right. This took some time.... a lot of time...... like a really long time. Moral of the story: Don't be that guy.

At this point we played around with some line entries and large team stuff, but this was mostly just to give us a taste of how fast a large corridor could be cleared and I think Bob just liked watching us run back and forth a lot.

In the last half of the day we moved to live fire while navigating people and obstacles. We ran various drills involving safe movement in and around other people (first dry, then live) to get used to moving, muzzle discipline and target recognition.

After that Bob setup a small room that involved some target selection and some tough choices made under pressure. Mistakes were made. Turning the corner and having a lot of stimulus has a way of turning you into a trigger happy motherfucker. I only shot one cop, but the fucker's twin was right next to him pointing a gun at me and he let him... so fuck him.


It was a great class and I left with a lot of new perspectives and identified a lot of opportunities for improvement.

[waukeenahbob]

I have to second everyone's comments....

Was an amazing and eye opening weekend of training....

A great bunch of guys to train with and an outstanding instructor...

Looking forward to the next opportunity to train with Bob!