Wood Resto and Repair

[Jafar]

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[FLT]

Looks nice, how much does a job like that run?

[Jafar]

Looks nice, how much does a job like that run?

Depends on the extent of the damage. Repairing a previously oiled stock is easier. If it's a poly coat with a chip, the entire stock has to be redone. Starts at $80 and goes up from there.

[polebarn]

How much to remove poly from Garand stock AND preserve the dod and p marks?

[Jafar]

How much to remove poly from Garand stock AND preserve the dod and p marks?

To remove poly and fix any dings, etc and go back with an oil finish will run about $300. If you'll notice, most war guns have deep and open grains. This allows a lot of moisture to get into the wood and cause potential damage. When we run the finish all the pores get filled, so it looks smooth and uninterrupted across the wood.

[Jafar]

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Fit for spacer and pad for Beretta 687DL

[Jafar]

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Building a jig to bend an engraved brass plate for SxS stock

[Jafar]

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Engraved and inlaid brass escutcheon for Ithaca SxS

[Jafar]

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Began installing a period correct recoil pad on a Burkard and Behr trap shot gun. The German 12 gauge is a break-action design circa early 1900's with a bottom lever that sets the hammer and breaks the barrels. The barrels are marked as Krupp steel and the engraving and final finish were performed by the American company L.C. Siner. An extremely rare piece.

[Schmidty]

Nice..... are you doing any work with melt in lacquer sticks on wood dings?

I've seen some years ago that you couldn't tell after they were done.

[Jafar]

Nice..... are you doing any work with melt in lacquer sticks on wood dings?

I've seen some years ago that you couldn't tell after they were done.

No sir, on a ding deep enough that can't be raised or sanded, I use an epoxy to fill the hole and then sand smooth with the contour of the stock.

[Jafar]

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Finished product for the Behr/Siner

[FLT]

That looks like first class work, what's a ball park figure for replaceing the recoil pad on a sako bolt action rifle ? The original one is starting to crumble from age . ( early 70s vintage )

[Jafar]

That looks like first class work, what's a ball park figure for replaceing the recoil pad on a sako bolt action rifle ? The original one is starting to crumble from age . ( early 70s vintage )

Thanks man, generally $120 plus the cost of pad. There's factors that can make it more or less; some stocks have been butchered underneath.

[Johnny]

Flt,my son replaced the one on my Sako 223.Perfect but he said he did not want to do another.He had to go on the internet and find someone would had an original pad.Found one at some gunsmith up north.Dang pad cost almost as much as Jafar quoted you to install it.

[Cattle/Horses]

NOS Sako pad on flebay for $124 now, I believe.

[Jafar]

Thanks man, generally $120 plus the cost of pad. There's factors that can make it more or less; some stocks have been butchered underneath.

Let me expound upon this; this is the cost to grind and fit a recoil pad of any fit to any gun. A replacement OEM pad that is a direct fit has nothing to do with the examples above.

[FLT]

Thanks guys , but I have several new old stock sako recoil pads I've had them for years. I'm sure some one on you the Internet will say otherwise but if you store a long gun barrel down the pad will last a lot longer.

[FLT]

J , those old pads had to be fitted , all the stocks weren't the same back then . The wood blank that some of those old sako stocks were made from would cost several hundred today , if you could even find wood that pretty.

[Johnny]

This very true Jafar,this pad was not fitted for this rifle and had to be ground to fit.As a one time owner of various Sako's from the late 60's and mid 70's all of them were different sizes on the butts.Better plan on fitting even if it is a Sako pad.Still have a couple.

[Johnny]

Nice work Jafar! My 223 Sako has 30 coates of hand rubbed oil finish,took over 6 months to do right.

[Jafar]

Nice work Jafar! My 223 Sako has 30 coates of hand rubbed oil finish,took over 6 months to do right.

Boiled linseed is my favorite. No matter how much you charge for it, you'll never get back how much time and detail you put into it.

[Johnny]

Yep that is exactly what I have used for yrs. cannot do this any more due to neruo. in my hands.

[Jafar]

Yep that is exactly what I have used for yrs. cannot do this any more due to neruo. in my hands.

If you need any help, just bring them up to me. We'll knock them out together.

[Jafar]

Restoring a Marlin 336 and going with straight grip Texas style. Much work left to do.

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[32flyingk9]

My .35 inspired you, didn't it....you can admit it.

[0utlaw]

Man that looks really nice, what's the plan for the lever?

[e.money83]

Man that looks really nice, what's the plan for the lever?
I was about to ask the same thing.

[Cattle/Horses]

Man that looks really nice, what's the plan for the lever?


I was about to ask the same thing.

There's aftermarket levers. http://www.mulemangunworks.com/mule-loops-custom-levers/

[Johnny]

Jafar does fine work,if you don't believe it take something up for him to do.

[Jafar]

Man that looks really nice, what's the plan for the lever?


I was about to ask the same thing.

I'm actually gonna try my hand at using the existing lever to make a straight lever or some custom bell shape like the ones C/H showed in the link. Torch it up, take a hammer and mandrel to reshape, then treat/temper and kote it. Be the first time I've attempted such a thing, but the night shift coupled with copious amounts of Monsters and AC/DC are steering me in that direction.

[Jafar]

There's aftermarket levers. http://www.mulemangunworks.com/mule-loops-custom-levers/

Those are very cool

[e.money83]

I'm actually gonna try my hand at using the existing lever to make a straight lever or some custom bell shape like the ones C/H showed in the link. Torch it up, take a hammer and mandrel to reshape, then treat/temper and kote it. Be the first time I've attempted such a thing, but the night shift coupled with copious amounts of Monsters and AC/DC are steering me in that direction.
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[Jafar]

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More than likely I'll probably wind up burning this bitch down. Forge work in a building full of gun powder, oil, and acetone may not be looked highly upon.

[Jafar]

Gonna need a bigger torch or a forge.

[Cattle/Horses]

^^^ Do you know farrier Dargin Waters? He's up ur way and has been at it for 30 years. He's the one I'd get to help me if I wanted to do that and he has all the equipment.

[32flyingk9]

My sister dated Dargin back in high school. Small world, but I'm guessing he's done farrier work for you?

[Cattle/Horses]

My sister dated Dargin back in high school. Small world, but I'm guessing he's done farrier work for you?


He's GOOD. I've used him through the years for corrective shoeing on horses and foals that had MAJOR feet problems. Problems that would have caused them to have to be put down if not fixed. Dargin always came through.


When other farriers call him for advice, you kinda know he's the one to go to.

[32flyingk9]

He was strong as a pulp wooder back then, but a nice guy. Haven't seen him in a long time though. If you cross paths with him, tell him I said hello.

[Jafar]

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Final prep and first coat

[Tack Driver]

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Final prep and first coat

Oil?

[Cattle/Horses]

Jafar, get you a test block of sanded wood and put a couple coats of tractor hydraulic fluid on it and see what you think. The wood takes the hyd fluid really good and it has a slight red tint.

[Jafar]

Oil?Boiled linseed

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[Jafar]

Jafar, get you a test block of sanded wood and put a couple coats of tractor hydraulic fluid on it and see what you think. The wood takes the hyd fluid really good and it has a slight red tint.For real?

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[Cattle/Horses]

Yeah, try it for real. I never seen it on a stock but for kiln dried YP it makes for nice looking siding. It's so fluid the wood soaks it up.

[Jafar]

Yeah, try it for real. I never seen it on a stock but for kiln dried YP it makes for nice looking siding. It's so fluid the wood soaks it up.Do you know if hydraulic is detergent based like tranny fluid?

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[Cattle/Horses]

Do you know if hydraulic is detergent based like tranny fluid?

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IDK, Google says: " has superior detergent/dispersant, anti-wear, antioxidant, anti-rust and anti-foam agents along with special friction modifiers"

[Jafar]

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Gonna wax the wood and take some outdoor pictures tomorrow, but this one is going home.

[0utlaw]

That there is taking chicken shit and making chicken cordon bleu out of it. That looks really nice.

[12bhunting]

How do you like the ergonomics of the buttstock? Does it handle carried one handed?..

[Jafar]

How do you like the ergonomics of the buttstock? Does it handle carried one handed?..

I actually prefer a straight stock to a pistol grip, IMO it provides a better ergonomic for the forearm as well is more suitable to more shooters due to the fact that a pistol grip defines your hand placement. This in turn, defines the shooter's comb placement. It's impossible to provide a pistol grip that suits every shooter, a fact garnered by how many people buy pistols by how they feel in their hand.

[Johnny]

Yep I agree JAFAR,that is why I don't shot glocks they feel like a dog turd in my hand.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Do you know if hydraulic is detergent based like tranny fluid?

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Yes it does. I am allergic to it for that reason.

[Jafar]

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It's hard not to whistle through your teeth when you look at it

[Cattle/Horses]

Turned out nice Jafar.

For some reason, a lever gun just doesn't look right without a straight/English stock.


What did you end up doing to get the lever correct?

[mattb]

That there is taking chicken shit and making chicken cordon bleu out of it...

Points deducted for not adding “chicken mask” in there somewhere.

[Tack Driver]

That's art.

[Jafar]

Turned out nice Jafar.

For some reason, a lever gun just doesn't look right without a straight/English stock.


What did you end up doing to get the lever correct?

Thank you, sir. I ran out of time to forge and bend the original so I purchased a used one From JW. I'm still gonna attempt forging that one out now that I have the freedom to destroy it in case things go bad.

[Jafar]

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[simmoag]

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It's hard not to whistle through your teeth when you look at it

Beautiful. That color pattern is badass.

[Jafar]

Beautiful. That color pattern is badass.

I was hesitant at first, but now I'm digging it.

[32flyingk9]

Is that Burnt Bronze???

[Jafar]

Is that Burnt Bronze???You know better. Coyote.

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[Jafar]

1966 Fox BSE-c wood replacement up to the first coat

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[Jafar]

Fox finished up

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[Tack Driver]

I actually like it without the checkering.

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[Jafar]

Savage 24B repair

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[Jafar]

I actually like it without the checkering.

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It can definitely make some of them look too busy.

[Jafar]

Stevens 350


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[Tack Driver]

Stevens 350


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What's going on in that second picture?

What kind of wood you reckon that is?

[Jafar]

What's going on in that second picture?

What kind of wood you reckon that is?

Stripping the poly coating and mud-like seal/stain. 90% sure it's maple. The older and less expensive guns didn't usually swing for walnut, hence the reason they wanted to stain them darker and put poly on them.

[WinterSoldier]

I enjoy a nice, pretty, set of furniture and try to keep the ones that come to me that way, they way they came. But I long ago quit giving a crap about any "appearance issues" in connection with the beat-up, gouged, and/or dented ones, though I have cleaned the ingrained and encrusted oil, grease and filth of handling off of a good, many... with an occasional loss of a little bit of good finish here and there (usually lacquered Soviet and Soviet satellite crap), but not often enough to get all exercised about. If I put anything resembling a finish back on a military firearm, it's just a matter of sealing the wood with multiple light coats of boiled linseed oil (BLO) and beeswax... except with really damaged wood generally over a century old, and on a not particularly good in any respect, firearm, I sometimes deliberately over-BLO those, hoping to better-protect what's left. I don't know about other countries and BLO, but my main interest is in British arms and if they followed their own maintenance protocols, the Brits applied BLO to a regular schedule. But I'll take what I can get and recently paid over $700 for a rather scarce non-British, non-firearm, the stock of which had been completely separated across the wrist, and seriously fractured at several places on the handguard... based on the condition of everything EXCEPT the wood, which had also been professionally or quasi-professionally repaired with brass pins or screws and an unknown adhesive, to all appearances quite awhile ago. Whether the repairs will hold up to shooting low-pressure loads or not, I have no idea... but I intend to find out. What the hell... IT'S ONLY MONEY! But I don't generally play favorites as to appearance. I buy guns to SHOOT them, and if an ugly one shoots good, it's better to me than one so unblemishedly pretty that I'm reluctant to shoot it. I can't claim to agree with what Chief Dan George told Clint Eastwood in the movie, The Outlaw Josie Wales... about a piece of rock candy being "just for looking through." I eat any candy I get aholt to, and I shoot my guns... all except an occasional old one in unfired condition that I should never have bought in the first place.

[WinterSoldier]

In this vein, the most-favorite gun I've ever owned was a 1892 London Small Arms Long Lee Metford which had been through numerous upgrades including to Long Lee Enfield, in British hands, and was almost certainly deliberately left on the beach when the Brits abandoned their Gallipoli beachhead on 8 Jan 1916, rigged to fire when water dripping from one can to another gained sufficient weight to pull its trigger. It was assigned to the Royal Naval Brigade, naval infantry who were the first ashore and the last to leave. After they "captured" this rifle, the Turks altered it with an 8mm barrel and the magazine of an 1893 Mauser. I shoot this 8mm Enfimauser, or as the Turks called it, "Bastard Gun", with reduced loads only, and it is quite accurate. Both wood and metal are surprisingly good for an arm with that kind of history, especially since the joker who sold it to me threw it and the detached bolt together loose in a box with no packing material whatsoever, and there is no telling how many times that bolt slammed back and forth against it in shipment from him to me.

[WinterSoldier]

In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The A-Team.




I hired the A-Team once, but all they did was drink all my beer, eat all of my watermelons, and leave the place a mess... Anyone who actually believes that anything like the A Team could exist, even for about 5 minutes, is delusional... but... watching that show was an amusing way to while away (waste) time. Most everything with digital images and sound, or on film if it's old enough, is nothing but a waste of time and source of unrealistic ideas that can and will lead to unrealistic thinking and eventual disaster, if relied on to any extent whatsoever.

[12bhunting]

I hired the A-Team once, but all they did was drink all my beer, eat all of my watermelons, and leave the place a mess... Anyone who actually believes that anything like the A Team could exist, even for about 5 minutes, is delusional... but... watching that show was an amusing way to while away (waste) time. Most everything with digital images and sound, or on film if it's old enough, is nothing but a waste of time and source of unrealistic ideas that can and will lead to unrealistic thinking and eventual disaster, if relied on to any extent whatsoever.

Hold up, are you saying the A Team was not real?

[WinterSoldier]

Hold up, are you saying the A Team was not real?

I'm sorry. The A Team was real... just every bit as real as the gun show loophole.

[Jafar]

Early 60's Winchester Model 59

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[Jafar]

1979 Rossi M92

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[Jennisfan]

Looks like the porch needs a little wood resto and repair. Rifle looks nice.

[rr53]

This is my .38/.357 rifle given to me by my best friend a month before he passed away. It kicks like a mule, accurate as hell and I will pass it on to my Grandson when I'm ashes in the Gulf.

Some things mean a lot. Stuff that is real, stuff you don't hang on a wall. Lance is a true artist. He made my day for sure. Thank you Sir.

[Tack Driver]

This is my .38/.357 rifle given to me by my best friend a month before he passed away. It kicks like a mule, accurate as hell and I will pass it on to my Grandson when I'm ashes in the Gulf.

Some things mean a lot. Stuff that is real, stuff you don't hang on a wall. Lance is a true artist. He made my day for sure. Thank you Sir.I saw it in person. I got lost in that midnight blue. Congratulations.

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[rr53]

Thanks Tack. He took my vision and made it real and better.

[MrC.]

How bout some advice.
I have my old Harrison and Richardson 410 single shot, its pitted and showing rust, whats the best way to save it? having it sanded and re-blued would be costly and more than its worth. for sentimental reasons ( my father gave it to me, and it was my first gun 30 plus years ago), I would like to pass it down, it doesn't need to be perfect just not rusty.
what do you suggest? is the aerosol bluing paint any good?

thanks
MrC.

[tqctally]

How bout some advice.
I have my old Harrison and Richardson 410 single shot, its pitted and showing rust, whats the best way to save it? having it sanded and re-blued would be costly and more than its worth. for sentimental reasons ( my father gave it to me, and it was my first gun 30 plus years ago), I would like to pass it down, it doesn't need to be perfect just not rusty.
what do you suggest? is the aerosol bluing paint any good?

thanks
MrC.

Cerakote that thing!


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[Dale Gribble]

How bout some advice.
I have my old Harrison and Richardson 410 single shot, its pitted and showing rust, whats the best way to save it? having it sanded and re-blued would be costly and more than its worth. for sentimental reasons ( my father gave it to me, and it was my first gun 30 plus years ago), I would like to pass it down, it doesn't need to be perfect just not rusty.
what do you suggest? is the aerosol bluing paint any good?

thanks
MrC.

Remove rust with 000 steel wool and oil. Keep oiled. Enjoy?

[Jafar]

1949 Remington Model 48 restoration

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[JMW4570]

Not bad for a Marine... :)

[Jafar]

1956 Winchester M1897 Resto

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[0utlaw]

I like that fade on the grip. It makes it look old and brand new at the same time.

[Jafar]

I like that fade on the grip. It makes it look old and brand new at the same time.

I wish it were intentional, that stock is so soaked in 60 years of oil that's sponged into the wrist, you'd have to bag it in Oil Dri for a year to make a dent in it.

[0utlaw]

Just shut your suck and act like you planned that shit

[Jafar]

Just shut your suck and act like you planned that shit

Uh, yeah. It's called a forced grain patina and if you don't know about it it's probably because you EDC an SD9VE. Trifling peasants.

[0utlaw]

Much better

[Jafar]

1923 LeFever Nitro Special Resto

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[e.money83]

Always been a fan of the side by side doubles. That's a nice piece, for sure.